Comments on: A Plug for Negawatts http://blog.craigslist.org/2008/05/amory-lovins-interview/ Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:32:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Joel Harvey http://blog.craigslist.org/2008/05/amory-lovins-interview/#comment-10677 Joel Harvey Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:22:35 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=35#comment-10677 Burning a fuel is burning a fuel is burninga fuel. Who doesnt understand that this is bad. Clean energy products are the future not nuclear power plants, not increasing oil drilling. If we dont put our foot down and demand a change our kids wont have a future. If we dont change the way we are thinking and save our natural resources for making important items we will run out and we will ruin our air which ruins our water and without either one we dont exist. Goto www.wecansolveit.org and join in on the race to solve our climate crisis and addiction to oil. We're not asking for change WE DEMAND IT!!!!! Burning a fuel is burning a fuel is burninga fuel. Who doesnt understand that this is bad. Clean energy products are the future not nuclear power plants, not increasing oil drilling. If we dont put our foot down and demand a change our kids wont have a future. If we dont change the way we are thinking and save our natural resources for making important items we will run out and we will ruin our air which ruins our water and without either one we dont exist. Goto http://www.wecansolveit.org and join in on the race to solve our climate crisis and addiction to oil. We’re not asking for change WE DEMAND IT!!!!!

]]> By: Kyle http://blog.craigslist.org/2008/05/amory-lovins-interview/#comment-3434 Kyle Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:01:37 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=35#comment-3434 Lovins has done some fantastic work. The TI plant redesign was impressive. If his plan to drastically improve Walmart's truck fleet efficiency happens, that will be fantastic. Lovins is not perfect. He pushes natural gas fired cogeneration solutions. His poorly reasoned opposition to nuclear power detracts from his well reasoned support for efficiency. Nuclear Notes did a pretty good job of showing the flawed logic in Lovins' anti-nuclear material in a four part blog serial: http://neinuclearnotes.blogspot.com/2008/06/amory-lovins-and-his-nuclear-illusion_05.html Putting generation near loads makes sense. Using ALL of the heat energy that your generating equipment produces makes sense. Using natural gas to produce electricity makes less sense in today's energy market than it did ten years ago, and it wasn't economical back then either. Removing subsidies is a move in the right direction. Holding fossil fuel plants to the same standard we hold nuclear plants is another move in the right direction. Nuclear power plant operators pay to store their waste. Who pays to store the CO2 emissions from the natural gas Cogen Mr. Lovins prefers? Contrary to Mr. Lovins' statements, nuclear plants are not always billion dollar projects: http://www.atomicinsights.com/AI_03-20-05.html http://www.atomicengines.com/index.html http://www.eskom.co.za/nuclear_energy/pebble_bed/pebble_bed.html Lets truly open the market up. Remove subsidies. Minimize externalities. Allowing a power plant to pump CO2 into the atmosphere for free is an externality that needs to be addressed. Lovins has done some fantastic work. The TI plant redesign was impressive. If his plan to drastically improve Walmart’s truck fleet efficiency happens, that will be fantastic.

Lovins is not perfect. He pushes natural gas fired cogeneration solutions. His poorly reasoned opposition to nuclear power detracts from his well reasoned support for efficiency. Nuclear Notes did a pretty good job of showing the flawed logic in Lovins’ anti-nuclear material in a four part blog serial: http://neinuclearnotes.blogspot.com/2008/06/amory-lovins-and-his-nuclear-illusion_05.html

Putting generation near loads makes sense. Using ALL of the heat energy that your generating equipment produces makes sense. Using natural gas to produce electricity makes less sense in today’s energy market than it did ten years ago, and it wasn’t economical back then either.

Removing subsidies is a move in the right direction. Holding fossil fuel plants to the same standard we hold nuclear plants is another move in the right direction. Nuclear power plant operators pay to store their waste. Who pays to store the CO2 emissions from the natural gas Cogen Mr. Lovins prefers?

Contrary to Mr. Lovins’ statements, nuclear plants are not always billion dollar projects:
http://www.atomicinsights.com/AI_03-20-05.html
http://www.atomicengines.com/index.html
http://www.eskom.co.za/nuclear_energy/pebble_bed/pebble_bed.html

Lets truly open the market up. Remove subsidies. Minimize externalities. Allowing a power plant to pump CO2 into the atmosphere for free is an externality that needs to be addressed.

]]> By: TC Bell http://blog.craigslist.org/2008/05/amory-lovins-interview/#comment-1668 TC Bell Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:30:35 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=35#comment-1668 Three Cheers for the Unhampered Market! Thanks Jim! Three Cheers for the Unhampered Market! Thanks Jim!

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]]> By: RonTayan http://blog.craigslist.org/2008/05/amory-lovins-interview/#comment-915 RonTayan Fri, 23 May 2008 00:23:03 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=35#comment-915 Dude! I always said the same thing. its like when the Japanese first invested Judo, they knew they would have to make it a completive sport for people to get involved in it. Same for anything, people need to be able to compete and smash the competition in order to feel the need to join. Humans are just stupid like that. Dude! I always said the same thing.

its like when the Japanese first invested Judo, they knew they would have to make it a completive sport for people to get involved in it.

Same for anything, people need to be able to compete and smash the competition in order to feel the need to join.

Humans are just stupid like that.

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