Comments on: Unlawful and Unfair http://blog.craigslist.org/2008/05/unlawful-and-unfair/ Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:22:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Diane http://blog.craigslist.org/2008/05/unlawful-and-unfair/#comment-181469 Diane Fri, 06 Aug 2010 01:30:03 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=30#comment-181469 I know about some of the other stuff but phishing attacks? That sounds like they're playing dirty. I know about some of the other stuff but phishing attacks? That sounds like they’re playing dirty.

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By: Curious http://blog.craigslist.org/2008/05/unlawful-and-unfair/#comment-153502 Curious Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:14:38 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=30#comment-153502 Is anything happening with this, guys? If so, I hope in your favor! Everyone hates ebay and everyone loves craigslist! Is anything happening with this, guys? If so, I hope in your favor!

Everyone hates ebay and everyone loves craigslist!

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By: Irina http://blog.craigslist.org/2008/05/unlawful-and-unfair/#comment-152282 Irina Thu, 08 Apr 2010 07:57:16 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=30#comment-152282 Wish to e-bay, kijiji and others they hold to be finally screWd this or that way. I wish their ending to be sudden, quick and rough. They had our trust, they abused it for the name of greediness, so they do not deserve it. The same wishes to all monopoly corporates. BANG!!!!! Wish to e-bay, kijiji and others they hold to be finally screWd this or that way. I wish their ending to be sudden, quick and rough. They had our trust, they abused it for the name of greediness, so they do not deserve it. The same wishes to all monopoly corporates. BANG!!!!!

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By: John http://blog.craigslist.org/2008/05/unlawful-and-unfair/#comment-131727 John Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:38:27 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=30#comment-131727 George (above) makes a good point, but in response it would probably not be in the best interest of Craigslist (nor a simple process) to venture from what they do best (and basically pioneered). Fortunately Craigslist makes it possible for me to sell very little on Ebay. I read the ENTIRE Craigslist complaint against Ebay and was very impressed by it (though I am no legal expert). Ebay's culture and business practices have changed greatly since the 90s. They now behave unethically like probably the majority corporate America and could almost be likened to Enron (except they are not failing). Corporate greed, and really the greed of the rich, and of executives in these companies is why we are in this recession. This kind of activity left unregulated, will cause the demise of our country and has already put a huge burden of debt on future generations of Americans. Basically Ebay Sucks (even though I use it sometimes) and Craigslist rules!! Now my question is: What is happening with this case? Has it been heard or decided yet? Did Craigslist win? and if they win, could/would they sue Ebay in Federal Court? George (above) makes a good point, but in response it would probably not be in the best interest of Craigslist (nor a simple process) to venture from what they do best (and basically pioneered). Fortunately Craigslist makes it possible for me to sell very little on Ebay.

I read the ENTIRE Craigslist complaint against Ebay and was very impressed by it (though I am no legal expert). Ebay’s culture and business practices have changed greatly since the 90s. They now behave unethically like probably the majority corporate America and could almost be likened to Enron (except they are not failing). Corporate greed, and really the greed of the rich, and of executives in these companies is why we are in this recession. This kind of activity left unregulated, will cause the demise of our country and has already put a huge burden of debt on future generations of Americans.

Basically Ebay Sucks (even though I use it sometimes) and Craigslist rules!! Now my question is: What is happening with this case? Has it been heard or decided yet? Did Craigslist win? and if they win, could/would they sue Ebay in Federal Court?

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By: John http://blog.craigslist.org/2008/05/unlawful-and-unfair/#comment-130603 John Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:32:42 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=30#comment-130603 Ebay and Paypal (one in the same) Think seem to make there own rules that seem to have no regard for any laws. It about time they have to answer to someone. Go Get Them !! Here's a link to an old Paypal lawsuit. http://www.aboutpaypal.org/paypal_lawsuit Ebay and Paypal (one in the same) Think seem to make there own rules that seem to have no regard for any laws. It about time they have to answer to someone. Go Get Them !!

Here’s a link to an old Paypal lawsuit.

http://www.aboutpaypal.org/paypal_lawsuit

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By: George Frazer http://blog.craigslist.org/2008/05/unlawful-and-unfair/#comment-128506 George Frazer Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:09:50 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=30#comment-128506 How about starting an auction format of your own. Everybody I have any dealings with are fed up with ebay and all their greed. I have almost quit using ebay except small items I need to buy or sell and use Craigslist for 95% of my dealings.......... How about starting an auction format of your own. Everybody I have any dealings with are fed up with ebay and all their greed. I have almost quit using ebay except small items I need to buy or sell and use Craigslist for 95% of my dealings……….

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By: Angry Ebay Seller http://blog.craigslist.org/2008/05/unlawful-and-unfair/#comment-99154 Angry Ebay Seller Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:00:22 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=30#comment-99154 We are all previous sellers and buyers on ebay. And we have grown to hate ebay due to the litany of practices they've pioneered to establish a monopoly and squeeze every drop of money out of their sellers and thus buyers. Here is a list of ebay's actions that we are most displeased about... 1.) Just in the past few years, ebay has slowly increased the percentage of their commission for goods sold from a little over 6% to 8.75% of the final ending fee!! A 50% increase in your commission/share of the profit in just a few years is absolutely unacceptable!! 2.) When overstock.com popped up as a competitor to ebay offering lower commission rates, ebay proceeded to buy them out, gut the auction portion of their site, and only then did it start to increase it's commission rates ever higher. 3.) Ebay has gone to extraordinary lenghts to shut down other competitors like yahoo auctions and amazon auctions, and are now engaged in buying up any online auction and classified listings left over. Recently, they bought up 27% of Craigslist (a rival) and are currently being sued by Craigslist for using that stock share to undermine Craigslist. Once any remaining competition is done away with, expect to see ebay's commissions rise even higher. This is the definition of monopolistic anti-competitive tactics. 4.) When paypal first opened to provide people a cheap easy way to pay for online auctions and other purchases, ebay proceeded to buy out the company, and later increased it's commission rates. Whereas ebay used to allow sellers to enable buyers to pay for items with cashier's checks, and money orders even just a few months ago, ebay recently changed this policy. Now the only payment method that can be used on ebay is paypal. Any sellers that tell their buyers they can pay via money order or check if they don't have a paypal account, get their auction closed by ebay, without a refund of the listing commission fees. This ensures that ebay gets a cut of the price twice, first for the auction's ending price itself, and then a percentage of the paypal payment as well. Most sellers including I've had auctions that ebay ended prematurely, without warning , and without refunding the listing fees because they mentioned that they will accept payment via either paypal or money order from buyers that don't have a paypal account. 5.) In addition to the continual increases in the commission fees, ebay has taken away sellers right to leave nonpaying buyers and buyers who abuse the auction site bad feedback. Sellers no longer can leave negative feedback to bad buyers. This policy along with the higher commission rates led to many sellers boycotting ebay as well. Seriously, does ebay's management not see the direct correlation between the higher commission rates it started charging 2 years ago, with the loss of sellers (and thus buyers) from it's site? Yet, in an effort to squeeze every drop of money out of us, ebay has continuously increased the commission fees more and more and each year. And as a result, it has become less and less profitable for all of us. Many ebay stores have had to close. Ebay's repeated milking of your sellers with higher and higher commissions and more restrictions is only going to continue your sites trend of losing business, and it's stock's decline. And as this petition goes to show, we, the previous buyers and sellers on your site, are well aware of what you have been doing to squeeze every drop of profit out of us. We strongly urge to google or some other competitor to launch an auction site to compete with ebay that is FREE and completely supported by ad revenue to provide relief to the many sellers that have had to close up shop on ebay due to the commissions going up from 6% to 8.75% in just two years. And we urge them to do so before ebay completes it's current buyout of craigslist. We are all previous sellers and buyers on ebay. And we have grown to hate ebay due to the litany of practices they’ve pioneered to establish a monopoly and squeeze every drop of money out of their sellers and thus buyers.

Here is a list of ebay’s actions that we are most displeased about…

1.) Just in the past few years, ebay has slowly increased the percentage of their commission for goods sold from a little over 6% to 8.75% of the final ending fee!! A 50% increase in your commission/share of the profit in just a few years is absolutely unacceptable!!

2.) When overstock.com popped up as a competitor to ebay offering lower commission rates, ebay proceeded to buy them out, gut the auction portion of their site, and only then did it start to increase it’s commission rates ever higher.

3.) Ebay has gone to extraordinary lenghts to shut down other competitors like yahoo auctions and amazon auctions, and are now engaged in buying up any online auction and classified listings left over.

Recently, they bought up 27% of Craigslist (a rival) and are currently being sued by Craigslist for using that stock share to undermine Craigslist. Once any remaining competition is done away with, expect to see ebay’s commissions rise even higher. This is the definition of monopolistic anti-competitive tactics.

4.) When paypal first opened to provide people a cheap easy way to pay for online auctions and other purchases, ebay proceeded to buy out the company, and later increased it’s commission rates. Whereas ebay used to allow sellers to enable buyers to pay for items with cashier’s checks, and money orders even just a few months ago, ebay recently changed this policy. Now the only payment method that can be used on ebay is paypal.

Any sellers that tell their buyers they can pay via money order or check if they don’t have a paypal account, get their auction closed by ebay, without a refund of the listing commission fees. This ensures that ebay gets a cut of the price twice, first for the auction’s ending price itself, and then a percentage of the paypal payment as well. Most sellers including I’ve had auctions that ebay ended prematurely, without warning , and without refunding the listing fees because they mentioned that they will accept payment via either paypal or money order from buyers that don’t have a paypal account.

5.) In addition to the continual increases in the commission fees, ebay has taken away sellers right to leave nonpaying buyers and buyers who abuse the auction site bad feedback. Sellers no longer can leave negative feedback to bad buyers. This policy along with the higher commission rates led to many sellers boycotting ebay as well.

Seriously, does ebay’s management not see the direct correlation between the higher commission rates it started charging 2 years ago, with the loss of sellers (and thus buyers) from it’s site?

Yet, in an effort to squeeze every drop of money out of us, ebay has continuously increased the commission fees more and more and each year. And as a result, it has become less and less profitable for all of us. Many ebay stores have had to close. Ebay’s repeated milking of your sellers with higher and higher commissions and more restrictions is only going to continue your sites trend of losing business, and it’s stock’s decline. And as this petition goes to show, we, the previous buyers and sellers on your site, are well aware of what you have been doing to squeeze every drop of profit out of us.

We strongly urge to google or some other competitor to launch an auction site to compete with ebay that is FREE and completely supported by ad revenue to provide relief to the many sellers that have had to close up shop on ebay due to the commissions going up from 6% to 8.75% in just two years. And we urge them to do so before ebay completes it’s current buyout of craigslist.

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By: Alfred http://blog.craigslist.org/2008/05/unlawful-and-unfair/#comment-54433 Alfred Wed, 06 May 2009 01:51:48 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=30#comment-54433 I use CL so much, and don’t remember life before it. hahaha! I use CL so much, and don’t remember life before it. hahaha!

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By: Brandon http://blog.craigslist.org/2008/05/unlawful-and-unfair/#comment-17037 Brandon Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:47:07 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=30#comment-17037 Finally someone stood up to ebay. They are just putting rerouted ads to their site becaue they want people to list stuff with them so they get paid from it. Finally someone stood up to ebay. They are just putting rerouted ads to their site becaue they want people to list stuff with them so they get paid from it.

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By: Phil http://blog.craigslist.org/2008/05/unlawful-and-unfair/#comment-16262 Phil Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:01:33 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=30#comment-16262 ATTENTION PLEASE................ If anyone you know has been the victim of ebay's releasing their account information to the police or any other agency or individual, without a court-ordered subpoena, PLEASE fire me an email at: legman1947@yahoo.com. ATTENTION PLEASE…………….

If anyone you know has been the victim of ebay’s releasing their account information to the police or any other agency or individual, without a court-ordered subpoena, PLEASE fire me an email at: legman1947@yahoo.com.

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