Comments on: Response to CT AG Letter http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/04/response-to-ct-ag-letter/ Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:22:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Robert Mabbutt http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/04/response-to-ct-ag-letter/#comment-85803 Robert Mabbutt Fri, 15 May 2009 23:14:16 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=97#comment-85803 Why didn't CL set up legal defense fund website and fight this political shake down. Given the history of Cook County's Sheriffs, one has to start with the assumption that it is shake-down. CL must be cutting into the control, and revenue, that local criminals and their politicians are getting from prostitutes. Maybe the assumption is wrong, and Sheriff Dart and A.G. Madigan are starting with the noblest of motives . Ms. Madigan must have learned about noble motives at Loyola Law, since her dad is a successful Illinois pol (speaker of the house), how could she have learned them at home? By giving in, and not seeking out help from the CL community, you are not only encouraging censorship, but enabling political corruption. Why didn’t CL set up legal defense fund website and fight this political shake down. Given the history of Cook County’s Sheriffs, one has to start with the assumption that it is shake-down. CL must be cutting into the control, and revenue, that local criminals and their politicians are getting from prostitutes. Maybe the assumption is wrong, and Sheriff Dart and A.G. Madigan are starting with the noblest of motives . Ms. Madigan must have learned about noble motives at Loyola Law, since her dad is a successful Illinois pol (speaker of the house), how could she have learned them at home?
By giving in, and not seeking out help from the CL community, you are not only encouraging censorship, but enabling political corruption.

]]> By: mike http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/04/response-to-ct-ag-letter/#comment-81980 mike Thu, 14 May 2009 18:40:42 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=97#comment-81980 Craigslist was on the forefront to defend freedom of speech and press and instead of fighting the good fight, they coward and crumbled against several crooked AG’s who are using tragedy as a platform to promote their own agenda. What is going to happen when someone buys a car from the auto section and kills some one with it? Will you delete the car buying section? Craigslist was on the forefront to defend freedom of speech and press and instead of fighting the good fight, they coward and crumbled against several crooked AG’s who are using tragedy as a platform to promote their own agenda.
What is going to happen when someone buys a car from the auto section and kills some one with it? Will you delete the car buying section?

]]> By: ROD http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/04/response-to-ct-ag-letter/#comment-81969 ROD Thu, 14 May 2009 18:35:18 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=97#comment-81969 Craigs List is operating a doule stsndard here Just look in casual encounters and see the postings of the Males touting for business. I am all for protecting workers of all types sex workers or not. If you are going to clean up the system then clean it up don't do half and discriminate against females. Craigs List is operating a doule stsndard here
Just look in casual encounters and see the postings of the Males touting for business. I am all for protecting workers of all types sex workers or not. If you are going to clean up the system then clean it up don’t do half and discriminate against females.

]]> By: brn http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/04/response-to-ct-ag-letter/#comment-80190 brn Thu, 14 May 2009 05:18:25 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=97#comment-80190 Dear Craig: Thanks for taking prompt action by getting rid of the Erotic Section. However, a legitimate masseuse in your new Adult Section can also be harmed by some crazy person so please don't even start it. A radio DJ and 3 other people here in Brooklyn got murdered by someone they met in The Casual Encounters Section in the last 4 years - so ban that too. A woman got killed when some nutcase answered her nanny ad - so please ban the jobs section. In fact, also ban the Real Estate section, the sales section (because now every psycho will pose as either a broker or may show up to "buy" your record collection.) In fact, ban any other section that may lead to possible human interaction - 95% of your site. Only then will I and every hardworking Attorney General will be satisfied. Thank you. Dear Craig:

Thanks for taking prompt action by getting rid of the Erotic Section. However, a legitimate masseuse in your new Adult Section can also be harmed by some crazy person so please don’t even start it.

A radio DJ and 3 other people here in Brooklyn got murdered by someone they met in The Casual Encounters Section in the last 4 years - so ban that too.

A woman got killed when some nutcase answered her nanny ad - so please ban the jobs section.

In fact, also ban the Real Estate section, the sales section (because now every psycho will pose as either a broker or may show up to “buy” your record collection.) In fact, ban any other section that may lead to possible human interaction - 95% of your site. Only then will I and every hardworking Attorney General will be satisfied.

Thank you.

]]> By: WALT LANDERS http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/04/response-to-ct-ag-letter/#comment-56980 WALT LANDERS Wed, 06 May 2009 21:36:19 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=97#comment-56980 TYPICAL COPS CAN'T SOLVE CRIMES, SO BLAME SOMEONE ELSE... ALSO, CL IS FREE, A GIFT. THEY CAN'T DO IT FREE IF THEY HAVE TO HIRE PEOPLE TO INVESTIGATE EVERY AD. TYPICAL COPS CAN’T SOLVE CRIMES, SO BLAME SOMEONE ELSE… ALSO, CL IS FREE, A GIFT. THEY CAN’T DO IT FREE IF THEY HAVE TO HIRE PEOPLE TO INVESTIGATE EVERY AD.

]]> By: Colin http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/04/response-to-ct-ag-letter/#comment-55357 Colin Wed, 06 May 2009 08:16:05 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=97#comment-55357 A lot of prostitution and many other types of crime rings trace back to government and corporate insiders. Ever hear of the Franklin bank scandal or the Dyncorp or UN child trafficking stories? Do you know a lot of your kidnapped kids go to the UK, Saudi Arabia, etc to be used by elite perverts? The nastiest and most corrupt activities are coming from above, always has been that way always will be. Colin A lot of prostitution and many other types of crime rings trace back to government and corporate insiders. Ever hear of the Franklin bank scandal or the Dyncorp or UN child trafficking stories? Do you know a lot of your kidnapped kids go to the UK, Saudi Arabia, etc to be used by elite perverts? The nastiest and most corrupt activities are coming from above, always has been that way always will be.

Colin

]]> By: Bob S. http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/04/response-to-ct-ag-letter/#comment-33078 Bob S. Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:21:15 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=97#comment-33078 Quite the hatchet job on Nightline. Craig, next time try & make the point that blaming Craigslist (CL) for the rare instance of predatory behavior by a user is akin to blaming the postal service for the anthrax letters: absolutely ridiculous. CL takes every reasonable precaution against criminal activity being perpetrated via the site. It just amazes me that corporate media (which has a financial interest in getting rid of CL) bestows responsibility for heinous acts by deranged individuals on CL itself! There have always been predators who've used personals ads as a way to lure victims; the only difference now is that CL is free. I believe THAT's what really has Disney/ABC's panties in a twist: CL doesn't fit the greed-driven corporate model, and the suits just can't stand it. Quite the hatchet job on Nightline. Craig, next time try & make the point that blaming Craigslist (CL) for the rare instance of predatory behavior by a user is akin to blaming the postal service for the anthrax letters: absolutely ridiculous.
CL takes every reasonable precaution against criminal activity being perpetrated via the site.
It just amazes me that corporate media (which has a financial interest in getting rid of CL) bestows responsibility for heinous acts by deranged individuals on CL itself! There have always been predators who’ve used personals ads as a way to lure victims; the only difference now is that CL is free. I believe THAT’s what really has Disney/ABC’s panties in a twist: CL doesn’t fit the greed-driven corporate model, and the suits just can’t stand it.

]]> By: jonta http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/04/response-to-ct-ag-letter/#comment-30785 jonta Tue, 28 Apr 2009 04:11:43 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=97#comment-30785 There is absolutely nothing Craigslist, or any other entity can do to prevent a deranged human from doing there bidding. Irresponsible people will always find some action that others will wait willingly to be able to blame others. Stick to your guns Craigslist, your minions are 100% behind you. There is absolutely nothing Craigslist, or any other entity can do to prevent a deranged human from doing there bidding. Irresponsible people will always find some action that others will wait willingly to be able to blame others.

Stick to your guns Craigslist, your minions are 100% behind you.

]]> By: GIL http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/04/response-to-ct-ag-letter/#comment-29043 GIL Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:48:31 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=97#comment-29043 I saw the interview on Nightline, and I think we all share in a responsiblity to create self worth in our youth so they can grow up and be self confident in whatever they decide to do. In today's cyber society, people young and old are exposed to fall victim to anything. With all the glitz and glamour to be had, we've created a false sense of worth in our society that has to end. I'm not saying this will end crime, but it's sure to put a dent in it. I'm not convinced that a prostitute chooses this profession because he/she likes it, they chose it because they were lured into it or they're trying to quickly get something they want and then its hard to stop because they then desire more and more. I couldn't imagine what goes on in the mind of a killer, but I would have to guess there's esteem issues going on there too among other things. It's my life's mission to create self worth, self esteem in the lives of so many youth who don't know they have options. We're so quick to condemn individuals for their actions but we're so reluctant to look at the big picture, like what have we done as a society to contribute to the derogatory actions of that person and what can we collectively do to fix it. When we really think about it, Craigslist is just an avenue people have created for supply and demand, no matter what the product is, even sex. If there was not so much demand, trust me, the supply wouldn't be there. If there's anything that we want to stop, all we have to do is stop buying into it!! So Mr. Jim Buckmaster, if you'd like to donate funds to charity, how about donating to ours. You have our contact information attached to this reply. I pray the masses of our society will search within themselves to make a difference in someones life, rather than criticizing when it's too late!!! I saw the interview on Nightline, and I think we all share in a responsiblity to create self worth in our youth so they can grow up and be self confident in whatever they decide to do. In today’s cyber society, people young and old are exposed to fall victim to anything. With all the glitz and glamour to be had, we’ve created a false sense of worth in our society that has to end. I’m not saying this will end crime, but it’s sure to put a dent in it. I’m not convinced that a prostitute chooses this profession because he/she likes it, they chose it because they were lured into it or they’re trying to quickly get something they want and then its hard to stop because they then desire more and more. I couldn’t imagine what goes on in the mind of a killer, but I would have to guess there’s esteem issues going on there too among other things.

It’s my life’s mission to create self worth, self esteem in the lives of so many youth who don’t know they have options. We’re so quick to condemn individuals for their actions but we’re so reluctant to look at the big picture, like what have we done as a society to contribute to the derogatory actions of that person and what can we collectively do to fix it. When we really think about it, Craigslist is just an avenue people have created for supply and demand, no matter what the product is, even sex. If there was not so much demand, trust me, the supply wouldn’t be there. If there’s anything that we want to stop, all we have to do is stop buying into it!!

So Mr. Jim Buckmaster, if you’d like to donate funds to charity, how about donating to ours. You have our contact information attached to this reply. I pray the masses of our society will search within themselves to make a difference in someones life, rather than criticizing when it’s too late!!!

]]> By: Newowl http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/04/response-to-ct-ag-letter/#comment-28087 Newowl Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:08:23 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=97#comment-28087 Aside from a magnificent display of his ignorance not only of technology but of craigslist operations, Blumenthal comes up with this one: “Craigslist has the means — and moral obligation — to stop the pimping and prostituting in plain sight,” Blumenthal said. “Like any bricks and mortar establishment, craigslist has the responsibility and power to prohibit prostitution, pornography and inappropriate behavior on its premises." Well, the AG actually has a bricks and mortar establishment but doesn’t seem willing, or able, to do anything about prostitution and pimps by himself. I mean, if it’s in plain sight, why isn’t he arresting these lawbreakers? Isn’t that what attorney generals are supposed to do? Perhaps the operative words are "plain sight"; his real agenda is to get The prostitutes and pimps back under the carpet where they won't make him look bad. Does craigslist need new procedures or the do the people of Connecticut need an attorney general with a clue? Aside from a magnificent display of his ignorance not only of technology but of craigslist operations, Blumenthal comes up with this one:

“Craigslist has the means — and moral obligation — to stop the pimping and prostituting in plain sight,” Blumenthal said. “Like any bricks and mortar establishment, craigslist has the responsibility and power to prohibit prostitution, pornography and inappropriate behavior on its premises.”

Well, the AG actually has a bricks and mortar establishment but doesn’t seem willing, or able, to do anything about prostitution and pimps by himself. I mean, if it’s in plain sight, why isn’t he arresting these lawbreakers? Isn’t that what attorney generals are supposed to do?

Perhaps the operative words are “plain sight”; his real agenda is to get The prostitutes and pimps back under the carpet where they won’t make him look bad.

Does craigslist need new procedures or the do the people of Connecticut need an attorney general with a clue?

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