Comments on: Striking a New Balance http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/striking-a-new-balance/ Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:22:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: bonvie http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/striking-a-new-balance/#comment-193793 bonvie Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:45:15 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=110#comment-193793 Well, most everyone has said what I feel, but as someone who has been able to avoid eviction from my apartment of 20 years over the past 9 months, it is scary and nerve wracking, to not know what to do now. I am an adult and my ad has saved my life. It galls me to be cut off and not know where to turn next. And, like many others already stated, it seems ludicrous that this in any way prevents crime. If anything, the site seems well organized. No I don't like having to pay for my ad, but in the interest of weeding out a lot of junk, it seems worthwhile. Now I don't know what will happen to the future, and the danger to myself will be exponential. I hope this decision is reversed, but knowing the "crusading Christians", probably not. After all, those are the very same men who get caught on prostitution lists, and wide stances in airport bathrooms, and take "rentboys" on expensive trips to "carry their luggage". Haha. Why don't all these righteous folks go after rentboy.com, which is openly a gay male escort service? Well, most everyone has said what I feel, but as someone who has been able to avoid eviction from my apartment of 20 years over the past 9 months, it is scary and nerve wracking, to not know what to do now. I am an adult and my ad has saved my life. It galls me to be cut off and not know where to turn next. And, like many others already stated, it seems ludicrous that this in any way prevents crime. If anything, the site seems well organized. No I don’t like having to pay for my ad, but in the interest of weeding out a lot of junk, it seems worthwhile. Now I don’t know what will happen to the future, and the danger to myself will be exponential. I hope this decision is reversed, but knowing the “crusading Christians”, probably not. After all, those are the very same men who get caught on prostitution lists, and wide stances in airport bathrooms, and take “rentboys” on expensive trips to “carry their luggage”. Haha. Why don’t all these righteous folks go after rentboy.com, which is openly a gay male escort service?

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By: Sapphire http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/striking-a-new-balance/#comment-193687 Sapphire Sun, 05 Sep 2010 04:07:35 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=110#comment-193687 This I think is a hatred toward sex workers and its totally unfair because this is a kind of service that well " is needed" and I as a sex worker have posted here and had people come to my house , were very nice rand respectful and i enjoyed their company as well they enjoyed mine . Yes I understand the danger of having a stranger over at my place but I never experienced like if I was in danger. All I got to say honestly is F@#K You all you in charge of Craigslist and lawyers and law makers State Attorneys fuck you !, haters of sex workers . Now u put people out of work !!!I know go try to save our education system in public schools and colleges which is suffering from budget cuts cause u bastards are spending money in the courts to help rid CL of sex work!!!! so leave us Alone to do are thing and spend your money wisely like to help fix education and create new jobs to ease unemployment!!!!!! This I think is a hatred toward sex workers and its totally unfair because this is a kind of service that well ” is needed” and I as a sex worker have posted here and had people come to my house , were very nice rand respectful and i enjoyed their company as well they enjoyed mine . Yes I understand the danger of having a stranger over at my place but I never experienced like if I was in danger. All I got to say honestly is F@#K You all you in charge of Craigslist and lawyers and law makers State Attorneys fuck you !, haters of sex workers . Now u put people out of work !!!I know go try to save our education system in public schools and colleges which is suffering from budget cuts cause u bastards are spending money in the courts to help rid CL of sex work!!!! so leave us Alone to do are thing and spend your money wisely like to help fix education and create new jobs to ease unemployment!!!!!!

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By: DAM http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/striking-a-new-balance/#comment-193585 DAM Sat, 04 Sep 2010 23:33:46 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=110#comment-193585 Well so much for freedom of speech. These GD States Attorneys have gone over the edge. What about going after the Liquor industry. They post (advertise) and then millions of people of killed in alcohol related deaths! Huh how about that. Or the tobacco industry or the high cholesterol food industry or the bicycle industry or the ladder, rope, gasoline fertilizer industries!!!! Christ I have a home weekly publication newspaper that advertises the same stuff. GET THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF THIS STUFF AND stick to paving/plowing roads, feeding school children and stay OUT of our back pockets!!!!!! Well so much for freedom of speech. These GD States Attorneys have gone over the edge. What about going after the Liquor industry. They post (advertise) and then millions of people of killed in alcohol related deaths! Huh how about that. Or the tobacco industry or the high cholesterol food industry or the bicycle industry or the ladder, rope, gasoline fertilizer industries!!!! Christ I have a home weekly publication newspaper that advertises the same stuff. GET THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF THIS STUFF AND stick to paving/plowing roads, feeding school children and stay OUT of our back pockets!!!!!!

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By: Perry Mann http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/striking-a-new-balance/#comment-109747 Perry Mann Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:20:39 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=110#comment-109747 the social question is to address the root rather than sensor the publishing of content. i am sure the ads will not go to the craigslist adult section but some other site.... i am sure that this has happened already. Does anyone know? the social question is to address the root rather than sensor the publishing of content.

i am sure the ads will not go to the craigslist adult section but some other site…. i am sure that this has happened already.

Does anyone know?

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By: Lisa http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/striking-a-new-balance/#comment-98231 Lisa Sun, 07 Jun 2009 19:03:30 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=110#comment-98231 By changing the title to "Adult Services" you have only changed a name. It is still the same service, just monitored more. What's with charging for advertising on the therapeutic side. I see ads from Asians obviously into prostitution. You are just kissing up to the politicians because some nut job was out killing girls. I too, have met the nicest men over the past three years. Once a person uses the internet or a cell phone it's easy to track them. What crap! By changing the title to “Adult Services” you have only changed a name. It is still the same service, just monitored more.

What’s with charging for advertising on the therapeutic side.
I see ads from Asians obviously into prostitution.

You are just kissing up to the politicians because some nut job was out killing girls.

I too, have met the nicest men over the past three years.

Once a person uses the internet or a cell phone it’s easy to track them.

What crap!

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By: TKM http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/striking-a-new-balance/#comment-98036 TKM Fri, 05 Jun 2009 00:06:04 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=110#comment-98036 Give CL a break, already, please. Those zelous South/North Carolia prosecutors have their careers and/or their Fundamentalist agendas going full-steam with all the accompanying hypocrisy and ignorance in full-view. They seem of the ideology to likely be opposed to sex education because as we all know, sex education is what causes teenagers to want to do it. When I look at the quotes in the latest article re: husband hires rapist to rape wife, and this is blamed on CL...and what position would these same characters take regarding gun control in the case of something involving guns (right, that's never a problem)...Also, comments such as "my children don't need to see this stuff"...indeed. And is it up to CL to keep your children from looking at personal ads?? Give CL a break, already, please.
Those zelous South/North Carolia prosecutors have their careers and/or their
Fundamentalist agendas going full-steam with all the accompanying hypocrisy and ignorance in full-view.
They seem of the ideology to likely be opposed to sex education because as we all know, sex education is what causes teenagers to want to do it.
When I look at the quotes in the latest article re: husband hires rapist to rape wife, and this is blamed on CL…and what position would these same characters take regarding gun control in the case of something involving guns (right, that’s never a problem)…Also, comments such as “my children don’t need to see this stuff”…indeed. And is it up to CL to keep your children from looking at personal ads??

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By: The Constitutionalist http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/striking-a-new-balance/#comment-97384 The Constitutionalist Fri, 29 May 2009 01:43:51 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=110#comment-97384 Shall we let a S.C. A.G. with alterior motives curtail freedom of speech for the WHOLE U/S.A? That's what happened when the erotic category was discontinued! It's not a question of content as in all media there is content that for sure somone would find objectionable, and I'm SURE theres no "crimes" committed in the great state of South Carolina protected by the the great high and mighty protector of public virtue Mr. McMasters. I'm equally certain that CL, being self patrolled does a pretty good job of keeping the community safe, but no system is perfect and I think CL has a pretty good history in this regard, unlike many others in the media, who, with their properties, don't. It's because it's a COMMUNITY, not a terribly capitalistic enterprise, and the founder and operations peole really care, love and protect the family as it is. To suggest, or even think the erotic category was aiding and abetting something illegal is to ignore the facts: CL took no editorial nor opertional actions to encourage any behavior; It provides a forum for free speech, exchange of ideas and commercial activities. and DOES NOT CENSOR posts but self regulates itself by commnity involvement, company involvement and vigilance by all against mis-category postings and obvious fraud ,but takes no stand on any content as it should. Freedom of speech protects ALL speech, not selective speech and CL should of NEVER given in - Especially as national law specifically protects bulletin boards such as CL - This is ridiculous! Sooo... As a public service: As erotic is ONLY "Banned In The U.S.A." NOT in other countries on the site, why not use another country, say Mexico for example, to post ads? Mexico has 15 cities listed, each one becomes a "sister city" (lol) to a U.S.A. city, for example San Francisco = Tijuana, etc, etc, etc... Brilliantly simple and elegant, and freedom of speech is restored! I'm curious how Mr. McMasters will react - Will he try to shut down Mexico? China? Costa Rica? Brazil? Canada? See how totally ridiculous this is? How will you react CL? With a set of balls and be a defender of the Constitution in all it's imperfect glory? Signed: The Constitutionalist Shall we let a S.C. A.G. with alterior motives
curtail freedom of speech for the WHOLE U/S.A?
That’s what happened when the erotic category was discontinued!
It’s not a question of content as in all media there is content that for sure somone would find objectionable,
and I’m SURE theres no “crimes” committed in the great state of South Carolina protected by the the great high and mighty protector of public virtue Mr. McMasters.
I’m equally certain that CL, being self patrolled does a pretty good job of keeping the community safe, but no system is perfect and I think CL has a pretty good history in this regard,
unlike many others in the media, who, with their properties, don’t. It’s because it’s a COMMUNITY, not a terribly capitalistic enterprise, and the founder and operations peole really care, love and protect the family as it is.
To suggest, or even think the erotic category was aiding and abetting something illegal is to ignore the facts: CL took no editorial nor opertional actions to encourage any behavior; It provides a forum for free speech, exchange of ideas and commercial activities.
and DOES NOT CENSOR posts but self regulates itself by commnity involvement, company involvement and vigilance by all against mis-category postings and obvious fraud ,but takes no stand on any content as it should.
Freedom of speech protects ALL speech, not selective speech and CL should of NEVER given in -
Especially as national law specifically protects bulletin boards such as CL -
This is ridiculous!
Sooo… As a public service:
As erotic is ONLY “Banned In The U.S.A.” NOT in other countries on the site, why not use another country, say Mexico for example, to post ads?
Mexico has 15 cities listed, each one becomes a “sister city” (lol) to a U.S.A. city, for example San Francisco = Tijuana, etc, etc, etc…
Brilliantly simple and elegant, and freedom of speech is restored!
I’m curious how Mr. McMasters will react - Will he try to shut down Mexico? China? Costa Rica? Brazil? Canada?
See how totally ridiculous this is?
How will you react CL? With a set of balls and be a defender of the Constitution in all it’s imperfect glory?

Signed:
The Constitutionalist

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By: Terry http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/striking-a-new-balance/#comment-97121 Terry Tue, 26 May 2009 14:30:49 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=110#comment-97121 There are tons of sites out there that have flat out escort ads on them. www.oncallfantasy.com www.eros.com Are two I found one in Google and the other in Google Maps. not to mention all the services I found in the yellow pages for Atlanta, GA. I am glad that you have at least told McJester to piss off. I hate southern baptist like him. There are tons of sites out there that have flat out escort ads on them.

http://www.oncallfantasy.com

http://www.eros.com

Are two I found one in Google and the other in Google Maps. not to mention all the services I found in the yellow pages for Atlanta, GA.

I am glad that you have at least told McJester to piss off. I hate southern baptist like him.

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By: david Carlson http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/striking-a-new-balance/#comment-97077 david Carlson Mon, 25 May 2009 18:58:43 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=110#comment-97077 Prostitutes, like homosexuals and other minorities before them, have been marginalized and endangered by societie’s intolerance for variation. Politicians such as Henry McMaster foster this attitude of hate against prostitutes. like other politicians have promoted intolerance against homosexuals and blacks to advance their own political agenda. Philip Markoff chose Julissa Brisman for robbery and abuse because he knew that she cold not go to the police for help. Just as Aaron McKinney and Russell Henderson chose Matthew Shepherd for the same robbery, abuse and murder. Homosexuals and Blacks of the past could rarely seek help from the police. When a whole group of people are condemned then it is so much easer for the evil of society to abuse individuals in that group. Only when the laws that are designed to subdue the group such as riding in the back of the bus or white only or sodomy or prostitution laws are repealed do the individuals of the group achieve the political power needed to fight back against injustice. Prostitutes, like homosexuals and other minorities before them, have been marginalized and endangered by societie’s intolerance for variation. Politicians such as Henry McMaster foster this attitude of hate against prostitutes. like other politicians have promoted intolerance against homosexuals and blacks to advance their own political agenda. Philip Markoff chose Julissa Brisman for robbery and abuse because he knew that she cold not go to the police for help. Just as Aaron McKinney and Russell Henderson chose Matthew Shepherd for the same robbery, abuse and murder. Homosexuals and Blacks of the past could rarely seek help from the police. When a whole group of people are condemned then it is so much easer for the evil of society to abuse individuals in that group. Only when the laws that are designed to subdue the group such as riding in the back of the bus or white only or sodomy or prostitution laws are repealed do the individuals of the group achieve the political power needed to fight back against injustice.

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By: jerry http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/striking-a-new-balance/#comment-97038 jerry Mon, 25 May 2009 07:19:17 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=110#comment-97038 freedom of expression, if larry flint can do it why not CL? are we not free to express? is freedom of expression not free? freedom of expression, if larry flint can do it why not CL? are we not free to express? is freedom of expression not free?

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