Comments on: Turning a Blind Eye http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/turning-a-blind-eye/ Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:22:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Katie in Maine http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/turning-a-blind-eye/#comment-267077 Katie in Maine Sun, 26 Dec 2010 18:12:12 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=123#comment-267077 I have a full time job. It pays crap. I own a house. I make a lot of extra money surfing the freebies and reselling the items. I don't sell my body to make extra money, but hey, who am I to judge. If it weren't for CL I couldn't afford my mortgage and car payment the last year or two. SO WHAT if some idiot is selling their body? I don't care! They may get raped or killed, and they may call it rape if they just don't get paid, even though they went to have sex with the other person. Not my business, or anyone else's for that matter. CL, do whatever you have to do to keep going! We love you (even with all the scammers)! People that use your site and want to condemn you should stop using your site! Screw Ebay with all the fees and their 'buyer protection' I have bought stuff off Ebay and it was 'not as described' aka-wedding dress with rips in the fabric, and they said, oh well the seller hasn't had a problem before, you're stuck with it. At least on your site it's local so we can go look at stuff before we commit to buying it or taking it. And who doesn't LOVE a "CURB ALERT"???? We would be sending so much stuff to the dump without you! You are my second form of income at this time, I can only support you and say thank you for your service! Does it mean you are prostituting yourself out as a website because I log on and go get something and resell it? Screw SC! You are the best classified for ANYTHING, and if you happen to list someone that is selling sex without your knowledge (or with your knowledge), who cares? You're not the pimp! I don't have to buy the paper to see the classifieds, and I don't have to pay 40 bucks to list a car for sale! We are behind you 1,000,000 percent! You could charge us for every posting but you don't, and thank you for all you do!! There is a disabled woman about 30 minutes from me who can't get out of her house, and if not for your site, nobody would know about her. She posted wanting books because she loves to read. I gathered up a bunch and went to meet her a couple months ago. She reads the books people give her, then a friend from northern Maine (about 6 hours North) comes and gets them and distributes the books to a group of 6 women who love to read but the closest library is 68 miles away. They then give them to goodwill to resell. So you are doing way more good than harm! Thank you so much for your services! I have a full time job. It pays crap. I own a house. I make a lot of extra money surfing the freebies and reselling the items. I don’t sell my body to make extra money, but hey, who am I to judge. If it weren’t for CL I couldn’t afford my mortgage and car payment the last year or two. SO WHAT if some idiot is selling their body? I don’t care! They may get raped or killed, and they may call it rape if they just don’t get paid, even though they went to have sex with the other person. Not my business, or anyone else’s for that matter. CL, do whatever you have to do to keep going! We love you (even with all the scammers)! People that use your site and want to condemn you should stop using your site! Screw Ebay with all the fees and their ‘buyer protection’ I have bought stuff off Ebay and it was ‘not as described’ aka-wedding dress with rips in the fabric, and they said, oh well the seller hasn’t had a problem before, you’re stuck with it. At least on your site it’s local so we can go look at stuff before we commit to buying it or taking it. And who doesn’t LOVE a “CURB ALERT”???? We would be sending so much stuff to the dump without you! You are my second form of income at this time, I can only support you and say thank you for your service! Does it mean you are prostituting yourself out as a website because I log on and go get something and resell it? Screw SC! You are the best classified for ANYTHING, and if you happen to list someone that is selling sex without your knowledge (or with your knowledge), who cares? You’re not the pimp! I don’t have to buy the paper to see the classifieds, and I don’t have to pay 40 bucks to list a car for sale! We are behind you 1,000,000 percent! You could charge us for every posting but you don’t, and thank you for all you do!! There is a disabled woman about 30 minutes from me who can’t get out of her house, and if not for your site, nobody would know about her. She posted wanting books because she loves to read. I gathered up a bunch and went to meet her a couple months ago. She reads the books people give her, then a friend from northern Maine (about 6 hours North) comes and gets them and distributes the books to a group of 6 women who love to read but the closest library is 68 miles away. They then give them to goodwill to resell. So you are doing way more good than harm! Thank you so much for your services!

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By: dss http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/turning-a-blind-eye/#comment-196735 dss Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:01:49 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=123#comment-196735 It's shallow reasoning to use a comparable that is worse as if that alone will make up for what is unacceptable - It's just like the kid whose parents won't let him go watch an r-rated movie at thirteen telling his parents "but the other kids are worse, they're watching x-rated movies". Do you seriously think that mature, sensible, and unbiased reasoning cannot see through that sort of specious reasoning? How about now turning attention to getting rid of the alt ads as well?! It’s shallow reasoning to use a comparable that is worse as if that alone will make up for what is unacceptable - It’s just like the kid whose parents won’t let him go watch an r-rated movie at thirteen telling his parents “but the other kids are worse, they’re watching x-rated movies”. Do you seriously think that mature, sensible, and unbiased reasoning cannot see through that sort of specious reasoning? How about now turning attention to getting rid of the alt ads as well?!

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By: Jay Barrett http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/turning-a-blind-eye/#comment-194891 Jay Barrett Tue, 07 Sep 2010 01:53:46 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=123#comment-194891 Jim, to be honest I dont want to be involved in this mess but if you need a signature on anything to be supplied to the gov't, I am ready and waiting for your response. I own a striptease company in Denver, Co. Being a small town, we have two adult publications. The Westword and the Rocky Mtn Oyster. As an agency we have been using print advertising for years. Your website killed basically killed them as viable options for adverts. I'm not blaming you, times mean change and sometimes companies have to change with the times. I am a Christian and though I know that adult situations can be SEEN as wrong, it is not up to any of us to judge what's appropriate and what's not. I know in my heart that the entertainment value of adult services is a necessary component of the human condition. We do one on one striptease and private parties. No full service whatsoever! The beauty of your website was that it's heading was vague. Erotic services emcompasses all that is adult oriented from striptease to unfortunately prostitution. But that's the beauty of it, it allowed us an opportunity to get to a clustomer's door. Once, thay have a chance to see the beauty of our women it really doesn't matter (except when they hobbyists and wiil not accept anything but sex. This happens more times than u think) they take the all nude striptease show. My point is that other websites split their adult services into sections; Escorts, Dominance, body rubs, and striptease. Guess what get the most attention? So what I'm saying is...everything in American society comes down to money not morals, unless there is money in talking about the degradation of our morals. That's what the media and the politicians are doing...making money off the selling of "Where have our morals gone" statements. Someone is benefiting behind this whole mess. I take steps to make sure that those not interested in this are not affected by adult situations. I don't even give our website address in the phone book for fear of children obtaining it. You have too, I know you have through the hurdles we have had to jump. Keep this in mind, you have really helped agencies and people make a living through reasonable rates regardless of what they did and especially in this recession. People were helped, and that you can take comfort in. We (as an agency) now have a choice to make, to endure and continue without you or give up and try something else. Jim, your choice is to now weigh the good and the bad of continiung adult services and the consequences that come with that choice. On one hand you have the gov't that is making money either way. Some governmental agency (aka politicians) is making money endorsing the abolilition of CL's adult services. They have a platform to stand on and the media has something to talk about. Meanwhile the people in the industry that have nothing to sell but the viewing of or actual sale of their bodies suffer. On he other hand if you were to continue CL adult services, a number of things happen. You continue to make money, the individual governmental agencies continue to make money (LE will have an avenue to bust those that are really breaking the law. Those cops have a job and make money regardless of whether a bust is made or not.), the media still has something to talk about and the common man (or woman) still makes a living. {1st Peter 3:14 individually}. Weigh the choice well Jim, but make sure your motives are pure in your heart concerning your actions and choose well. Remember that all around the world people hut and will continue to be hurt regardless of yourchoice. Just try to make a choice that helps more than it hurts. Thank you for the number of years that your company helped in making my life a little easier. It wasn't your responsibility but it helped just as well. Good luck and though I have selfish reasons for the outcome of this situation. I hope that you find comfort in your choice individually. Good luck. Jim, to be honest I dont want to be involved in this mess but if you need a signature on anything to be supplied to the gov’t, I am ready and waiting for your response.

I own a striptease company in Denver, Co. Being a small town, we have two adult publications. The Westword and the Rocky Mtn Oyster. As an agency we have been using print advertising for years. Your website killed basically killed them as viable options for adverts. I’m not blaming you, times mean change and sometimes companies have to change with the times. I am a Christian and though I know that adult situations can be SEEN as wrong, it is not up to any of us to judge what’s appropriate and what’s not. I know in my heart that the entertainment value of adult services is a necessary component of the human condition. We do one on one striptease and private parties. No full service whatsoever!
The beauty of your website was that it’s heading was vague. Erotic services emcompasses all that is adult oriented from striptease to unfortunately prostitution. But that’s the beauty of it, it allowed us an opportunity to get to a clustomer’s door. Once, thay have a chance to see the beauty of our women it really doesn’t matter (except when they hobbyists and wiil not accept anything but sex. This happens more times than u think) they take the all nude striptease show.
My point is that other websites split their adult services into sections; Escorts, Dominance, body rubs, and striptease. Guess what get the most attention?
So what I’m saying is…everything in American society comes down to money not morals, unless there is money in talking about the degradation of our morals. That’s what the media and the politicians are doing…making money off the selling of “Where have our morals gone” statements. Someone is benefiting behind this whole mess.
I take steps to make sure that those not interested in this are not affected by adult situations. I don’t even give our website address in the phone book for fear of children obtaining it. You have too, I know you have through the hurdles we have had to jump.
Keep this in mind, you have really helped agencies and people make a living through reasonable rates regardless of what they did and especially in this recession. People were helped, and that you can take comfort in. We (as an agency) now have a choice to make, to endure and continue without you or give up and try something else.
Jim, your choice is to now weigh the good and the bad of continiung adult services and the consequences that come with that choice.
On one hand you have the gov’t that is making money either way. Some governmental agency (aka politicians) is making money endorsing the abolilition of CL’s adult services. They have a platform to stand on and the media has something to talk about. Meanwhile the people in the industry that have nothing to sell but the viewing of or actual sale of their bodies suffer.
On he other hand if you were to continue CL adult services, a number of things happen. You continue to make money, the individual governmental agencies continue to make money (LE will have an avenue to bust those that are really breaking the law. Those cops have a job and make money regardless of whether a bust is made or not.), the media still has something to talk about and the common man (or woman) still makes a living. {1st Peter 3:14 individually}.
Weigh the choice well Jim, but make sure your motives are pure in your heart concerning your actions and choose well. Remember that all around the world people hut and will continue to be hurt regardless of yourchoice. Just try to make a choice that helps more than it hurts.
Thank you for the number of years that your company helped in making my life a little easier. It wasn’t your responsibility but it helped just as well.
Good luck and though I have selfish reasons for the outcome of this situation. I hope that you find comfort in your choice individually. Good luck.

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By: Foxy Hole http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/turning-a-blind-eye/#comment-190998 Foxy Hole Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:56:24 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=123#comment-190998 Know where all those CL girls went to? The streets. Thanks guys you done cyber space proud. But a hoe is a hoe is a hoe been around since the bible, ain't going change. Most city streets look like something outta a bad 70's tv show. What was good about CL (back in the day) if a girl had a computer phone and a car we provided services independantly. Not so on the streets we gotta deal with money grubbing pimps, pay cuts, unsafe conditions & five oh following us around asking us, Why are you buying condoms? Where are you going? Get off this block go down to that other block. Know where all those CL girls went to? The streets. Thanks guys you done cyber space proud. But a hoe is a hoe is a hoe been around since the bible, ain’t going change. Most city streets look like something outta a bad 70’s tv show. What was good about CL (back in the day) if a girl had a computer phone and a car we provided services independantly. Not so on the streets we gotta deal with money grubbing pimps, pay cuts, unsafe conditions & five oh following us around asking us, Why are you buying condoms? Where are you going? Get off this block go down to that other block.

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By: Bryon Vandeusen http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/turning-a-blind-eye/#comment-137560 Bryon Vandeusen Sat, 09 Jan 2010 21:22:36 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=123#comment-137560 This is such a great resource that you are providing and you give it away for free. I enjoy seeing websites that understand the value of providing a prime resource for free. I truly loved reading your post. Thanks! This is such a great resource that you are providing and you give it away for free. I enjoy seeing websites that understand the value of providing a prime resource for free. I truly loved reading your post. Thanks!

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By: Justin999 http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/turning-a-blind-eye/#comment-125638 Justin999 Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:28:09 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=123#comment-125638 CL can get the politicians and corporate media off their backs by accepting advertisements from pharmaceutical and financial services companies. Also the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Those are the people who control the politicians and media. Think of the lobbying Craigslist could do just from the profits of Viagra ads in the personals section!!! HAHAHA CL can get the politicians and corporate media off their backs by accepting advertisements from pharmaceutical and financial services companies. Also the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Those are the people who control the politicians and media.

Think of the lobbying Craigslist could do just from the profits of Viagra ads in the personals section!!! HAHAHA

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By: Lee http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/turning-a-blind-eye/#comment-122883 Lee Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:17:55 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=123#comment-122883 FREEDOM. CONTROL. One requires individual responsibility inherit with choice. The other relieves us of such for we are only responsible for one thing: Obedience without grievance or debate. Sadly, most Americans have difficulty untangling Freedom from Personal Preference. Personally, I DO NOT PREFER the human body with tattoos and body piercings, particularly mine. BUT!! I will fight till death for the FREEDOM of CHOICE for those who DO PREFER otherwise. I've strongly & deeply disagreed, been offended and utterly repulsed by some of the material in Larry Flint's Hustler Magazine, particularly parody of Jesus Christ. BUT!! I defend & support his freedom to do so. And so would Jesus Himself, I believe. Evil lurks not so easily in Light of Freedom, but kills, steals & destroys in Darkness of Control. Human history couldn't illustrate that more clearly. Yet, human history also illustrates our never-endng tendencies to lose balance & fall for the beauty & innocense of evil, only to battle again for Freedom after its skillful deception & ugly intent become unmasked, revealing so clearly its cold and clammy clutch of Control. Lee is FREE...which doesn't mean sex with me is also - unless I choose otherwise. You get the point. Lee FREEDOM. CONTROL. One requires individual responsibility inherit with choice. The other relieves us of such for we are only responsible for one thing: Obedience without grievance or debate.

Sadly, most Americans have difficulty untangling Freedom from Personal Preference. Personally, I DO NOT PREFER the human body with tattoos and body piercings, particularly mine. BUT!! I will fight till death for the FREEDOM of CHOICE for those who DO PREFER otherwise.

I’ve strongly & deeply disagreed, been offended and utterly repulsed by some of the material in Larry Flint’s Hustler Magazine, particularly parody of Jesus Christ. BUT!! I defend & support his freedom to do so. And so would Jesus Himself, I believe.

Evil lurks not so easily in Light of Freedom, but kills, steals & destroys in Darkness of Control. Human history couldn’t illustrate that more clearly. Yet, human history also illustrates our never-endng tendencies to lose balance & fall for the beauty & innocense of evil, only to battle again for Freedom after its skillful deception & ugly intent become unmasked, revealing so clearly its cold and clammy clutch of Control.

Lee is FREE…which doesn’t mean sex with me is also - unless I choose otherwise. You get the point.

Lee

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By: Jeff http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/turning-a-blind-eye/#comment-121675 Jeff Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:23:53 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=123#comment-121675 HELLO!!! I'll tell you why the politicians went after CL a little person known as the Craigslist Killer!!!! If that idiot had used Backpage to find his victims that would have brought backpage to the forefront of the news. As it stands none of those politicians have probably ever heard of backpage.com. Just like they probably had never heard of craigslist before him. The travesty is that CL is being punished for something they could never have controlled. HELLO!!! I’ll tell you why the politicians went after CL a little person known as the Craigslist Killer!!!! If that idiot had used Backpage to find his victims that would have brought backpage to the forefront of the news. As it stands none of those politicians have probably ever heard of backpage.com. Just like they probably had never heard of craigslist before him. The travesty is that CL is being punished for something they could never have controlled.

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By: Colin http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/turning-a-blind-eye/#comment-121641 Colin Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:09:24 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=123#comment-121641 I haven't been keeping up but I am sure that this is a corporate/political inside job designed to destroy CL because it is a threat to corporate monopolies. As the culture gets sicker and sicker of mainstream garbage offered in every venue, they will seek quality in places less traveled. I was just on the Strictly Platonic section and its unusable because its all porno spam now. This is being paid for by an insider operation design to make CL fall. Its time to DESTROY the mainstream political/corporate machine by utterly ignoring everything that comes out of Washington and Madison Avenue. No more TV, no more comments about these fools. Throw them in the trash! I haven’t been keeping up but I am sure that this is a corporate/political inside job designed to destroy CL because it is a threat to corporate monopolies. As the culture gets sicker and sicker of mainstream garbage offered in every venue, they will seek quality in places less traveled. I was just on the Strictly Platonic section and its unusable because its all porno spam now. This is being paid for by an insider operation design to make CL fall. Its time to DESTROY the mainstream political/corporate machine by utterly ignoring everything that comes out of Washington and Madison Avenue. No more TV, no more comments about these fools. Throw them in the trash!

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By: joseph http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/turning-a-blind-eye/#comment-121559 joseph Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:07:49 +0000 http://blog.craigslist.org/?p=123#comment-121559 Hear hear! Hear hear!

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