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		<title>By: Jerry S</title>
		<link>http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/victory/#comment-122483</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 02:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henry McMasters will be a guest on the Bob McClain Show on Newsradio WORD Greenville, SC on Thursday August 27th. The show is on from 3 till 6. Not sure what time McMasters is on. The station is online at newsradioword.com. Listen in. I plan to call in and grill him on the Craigslist fiasco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry McMasters will be a guest on the Bob McClain Show on Newsradio WORD Greenville, SC on Thursday August 27th. The show is on from 3 till 6. Not sure what time McMasters is on. The station is online at newsradioword.com. Listen in. I plan to call in and grill him on the Craigslist fiasco.</p>
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		<title>By: Ericka</title>
		<link>http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/victory/#comment-96775</link>
		<dc:creator>Ericka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 18:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to clarify that there after the new Adult Section changes that CL did not verify or clearly state what the "EXPIRATION" time would be changed to on the new section vs the old Erotic section ads we posted.  Prior to now the expiration date was not less than two weeks.  

Under the terms and conditions agreement you accept prior to submitting and paying $10 for a new ad, it does not state when the ads will expire.  However, it does state that you may repost prior to expiration date.  

Well I paid and posted a new ad on Nov 14th and my ad remained.  I did not delete the posting and yet a client of mine check CL today to see what our specials were and the listing is removed by CL.  

I believe we should be able to repost ads for $5 even after they have expired because CL failed to disclose to us the expiration time for each ad prior to taking our money.  Otherwise, a full refund of my $10 fee for my original post on May 14th will be sufficient.  

I do not mind paying CL for the ad.  Nor do I care if its donated to charity of simply used by CL to pay staff for maintaining and regulating posts.  BUT- any company who accepts your money should clearly state its terms and conditions for use of their services prior to accepting your money.  That is your consumer right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to clarify that there after the new Adult Section changes that CL did not verify or clearly state what the &#8220;EXPIRATION&#8221; time would be changed to on the new section vs the old Erotic section ads we posted.  Prior to now the expiration date was not less than two weeks.  </p>
<p>Under the terms and conditions agreement you accept prior to submitting and paying $10 for a new ad, it does not state when the ads will expire.  However, it does state that you may repost prior to expiration date.  </p>
<p>Well I paid and posted a new ad on Nov 14th and my ad remained.  I did not delete the posting and yet a client of mine check CL today to see what our specials were and the listing is removed by CL.  </p>
<p>I believe we should be able to repost ads for $5 even after they have expired because CL failed to disclose to us the expiration time for each ad prior to taking our money.  Otherwise, a full refund of my $10 fee for my original post on May 14th will be sufficient.  </p>
<p>I do not mind paying CL for the ad.  Nor do I care if its donated to charity of simply used by CL to pay staff for maintaining and regulating posts.  BUT- any company who accepts your money should clearly state its terms and conditions for use of their services prior to accepting your money.  That is your consumer right.</p>
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		<title>By: Pam H</title>
		<link>http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/victory/#comment-96723</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 04:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me that 'Defendant McMaster' is in violation of his oath of office (assuming he has taken an oath, and without his fingers being crossed) and as such violation would at the very least cost him his public office, I believe, maybe one of the various prosecuting attorneys could take the time to prosecute his/her boss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that &#8216;Defendant McMaster&#8217; is in violation of his oath of office (assuming he has taken an oath, and without his fingers being crossed) and as such violation would at the very least cost him his public office, I believe, maybe one of the various prosecuting attorneys could take the time to prosecute his/her boss.</p>
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		<title>By: North of the Border</title>
		<link>http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/victory/#comment-96722</link>
		<dc:creator>North of the Border</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would the State of South Carolina go after prostitutes?  They refuse to address bigamy cases.  It's illegal according to their state statues but a judge for ciminal court in Myrtle Beach ruled that a bigamy case belonged in family court.  I guess the judges don't know the law or the old adage of ineptness filters down from the top is true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would the State of South Carolina go after prostitutes?  They refuse to address bigamy cases.  It&#8217;s illegal according to their state statues but a judge for ciminal court in Myrtle Beach ruled that a bigamy case belonged in family court.  I guess the judges don&#8217;t know the law or the old adage of ineptness filters down from the top is true.</p>
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		<title>By: Cody</title>
		<link>http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/victory/#comment-96719</link>
		<dc:creator>Cody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 02:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craigslist, properly replace the erotic section back on your site and link it to this blog! Allow people to see the reason why its gone and who caused so many issues over it. I'm sure the people of SC would soon learn and see... he won't get into office that way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craigslist, properly replace the erotic section back on your site and link it to this blog! Allow people to see the reason why its gone and who caused so many issues over it. I&#8217;m sure the people of SC would soon learn and see&#8230; he won&#8217;t get into office that way!</p>
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		<title>By: Waitman Gobble</title>
		<link>http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/victory/#comment-96715</link>
		<dc:creator>Waitman Gobble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 02:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to a recent Mercury article, McMaster has never prosecuted a hooker case, at least during his term as st atty gen.

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_12421964?source=rss#article_comments

I say even to crazy people his posturing is just plain-ole crazy, but who knows? It exists in a bubble of they, them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to a recent Mercury article, McMaster has never prosecuted a hooker case, at least during his term as st atty gen.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_12421964?source=rss#article_comments" rel="nofollow">http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_12421964?source=rss#article_comments</a></p>
<p>I say even to crazy people his posturing is just plain-ole crazy, but who knows? It exists in a bubble of they, them.</p>
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		<title>By: Barnwell</title>
		<link>http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/victory/#comment-96708</link>
		<dc:creator>Barnwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McMaster is a slumlord.  I'm surprised nothing has come up any of his rental properties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McMaster is a slumlord.  I&#8217;m surprised nothing has come up any of his rental properties.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Stevens</title>
		<link>http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/victory/#comment-96671</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 16:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry from MN wrote: "Unfortunately for Defendant McMaster, I have a feeling Buckmaster is not quite done yet."

I live near Greenville, SC and my sense is that he had an "Uh-Oh" moment where he realized he'd stepped in it. I'd bet the majority of people who read or heard that story had never heard of him before, which is probably why he did it in the first place. However, the local reaction was mostly rolling eyes. I haven't heard or read of a single "attaboy" for him. 

The Upstate of South Carolina, home to BMW North America and Michelin North America, draws people from around the country and world. We have our share of yahoos but then so does California.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry from MN wrote: &#8220;Unfortunately for Defendant McMaster, I have a feeling Buckmaster is not quite done yet.&#8221;</p>
<p>I live near Greenville, SC and my sense is that he had an &#8220;Uh-Oh&#8221; moment where he realized he&#8217;d stepped in it. I&#8217;d bet the majority of people who read or heard that story had never heard of him before, which is probably why he did it in the first place. However, the local reaction was mostly rolling eyes. I haven&#8217;t heard or read of a single &#8220;attaboy&#8221; for him. </p>
<p>The Upstate of South Carolina, home to BMW North America and Michelin North America, draws people from around the country and world. We have our share of yahoos but then so does California.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Rocket</title>
		<link>http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/victory/#comment-96654</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Rocket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 15:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please, please, please do not drop your lawsuit. You are going to get some spin trying to peg YOU as the unreasonable ones for continuing with your lawsuit. DO NOT LISTEN TO THE SPIN. In fact, please spin it back and make this a free speech issue, which it absolutely is. Larry Flynt was an unlikeable character who stood for free speech and won. You guys are far more likeable and you have mainstream Americans on your side. You are in a unique position to take back the First Amendment rights that have been deteriorating every day in America. Do not settle out of court. Please press for a judgment that includes several million in attorneys fees AND a precedent-setting free speech ruling. This will provide a financial disincentive to grandstanding attorneys general and provide more protection for website owners who may not have the resources you guys have. Don't think for one minute that this is all about Craigslist. It is a slippery slope. Let's say you guys back down and drop your lawsuit or settle out of court. With the current atmosphere of regulating everything, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for someone with an agenda to propose regulating every site on the internet and maybe even paying registration fees to the government "to prevent criminal activity". Such a program would probably prevent much criminal activity in the US but the criminals would just move their sites to other countries and the free speech rights of smaller entities would be squashed because they no longer have (nearly) free access to the internet. Please also don't think that other attorneys general are not preparing cases against you right now. I can guarantee you they are. If you back down or settle this case without a massive disincentive being placed in the form of case law and financial penalties, be prepared to defend yourselves against an onslaught of civil AND criminal prosecutions. Remember what Mike Nifong did despite there being no facts and no law to back up his claims? It can just as easily happen to you and anyone else on the web. Use your unique position to further the greater good. PLEASE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, please, please do not drop your lawsuit. You are going to get some spin trying to peg YOU as the unreasonable ones for continuing with your lawsuit. DO NOT LISTEN TO THE SPIN. In fact, please spin it back and make this a free speech issue, which it absolutely is. Larry Flynt was an unlikeable character who stood for free speech and won. You guys are far more likeable and you have mainstream Americans on your side. You are in a unique position to take back the First Amendment rights that have been deteriorating every day in America. Do not settle out of court. Please press for a judgment that includes several million in attorneys fees AND a precedent-setting free speech ruling. This will provide a financial disincentive to grandstanding attorneys general and provide more protection for website owners who may not have the resources you guys have. Don&#8217;t think for one minute that this is all about Craigslist. It is a slippery slope. Let&#8217;s say you guys back down and drop your lawsuit or settle out of court. With the current atmosphere of regulating everything, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s out of the realm of possibility for someone with an agenda to propose regulating every site on the internet and maybe even paying registration fees to the government &#8220;to prevent criminal activity&#8221;. Such a program would probably prevent much criminal activity in the US but the criminals would just move their sites to other countries and the free speech rights of smaller entities would be squashed because they no longer have (nearly) free access to the internet. Please also don&#8217;t think that other attorneys general are not preparing cases against you right now. I can guarantee you they are. If you back down or settle this case without a massive disincentive being placed in the form of case law and financial penalties, be prepared to defend yourselves against an onslaught of civil AND criminal prosecutions. Remember what Mike Nifong did despite there being no facts and no law to back up his claims? It can just as easily happen to you and anyone else on the web. Use your unique position to further the greater good. PLEASE</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/05/victory/#comment-96644</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 14:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Buckmaster,
I am writing in response to a comment I made on a previous article in. I am writing to apologize to you. I wrote something to the effect that you have no balls for allow this jerk to talk and treat you like a criminal.

I am eating my may words... You my sir have balls the size of watermelons... Great for standing up to these backwoods, living in the dark ages, grandstanding and completely stupid people. 

My hat is off to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Buckmaster,<br />
I am writing in response to a comment I made on a previous article in. I am writing to apologize to you. I wrote something to the effect that you have no balls for allow this jerk to talk and treat you like a criminal.</p>
<p>I am eating my may words&#8230; You my sir have balls the size of watermelons&#8230; Great for standing up to these backwoods, living in the dark ages, grandstanding and completely stupid people. </p>
<p>My hat is off to you.</p>
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